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Adam Newton: I want to start with a general question for whoever wants to answer. How and when did you get
involved in Ek-sen-trik Discordianism?
Untroubled Teen: I started when I was fictional. Then I became real. But when I don't remember.
Princess Unicornia: Reverend Loveshade told me about it. That was like five years ago.
Dr. Sinister Craven: Dr. Loveshade told me about der Ek-sen-triks also. I believe this was in 1992 when the
club was undead. Then he was not a doctor but he liked playing doctor. I joined by cutting off my foot. Don't
worry it grew back (shows foot).
Reverend Loveshade: I heard tales of the original Ek-sen-triks CluborGuild from my mother when I was a kid.
The roots of my fascination with Discordianism go back to the end of the 1980s or beginning of the 1990s. My
friend Brother Goose, who knew many of the original Ek-sen-triks, gave me Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton
Wilson. In 1994 I read the just-released Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia, and penned a few
pieces for a proposed Apocrypha Discordia. That book never happened, although a later book by the same
name did, and included a bit of what I'd written and posted online.
Newton: The most well-known of those pieces is 'Five Blind Men and an Elephant,' your retelling of a classic
myth. I saw your version in several collections while researching this interview. What's the point of it?
Loveshade: I refuse to give an analysis of my own work for fear it might incriminate me.
Unicornia: It's about how everybody sees things differently. But if you think everybody should see things your
way, then you have problems.
Newton: This question is for anybody. Do you really believe all this Ek-sen-trik Discordian stuff?
Untroubled: No.
Fairy Princess Yoshikyoko (breaking from a platonic kiss with Nixie Nurita to fly closer to Newton): I believe in
love and that's part of it. And you should be free to be yourself.
Unicornia: I believe Discordia is a real aspect of Goddess. And so is Harmonia.
Craven: I know that Dr. Loveshade believes in what he says. I believe in what I wrote down.
Perlie the Pony Girl: I believe in Reverend Loveshade!
Loveshade: I believe everything I say and write is completely and absolutely false. Including this.
Newton: Unicornia and Yoshikyoko, you co-founded the Mythics of Harmonia. Why?
Yoshikyoko: It's for Aneris who is really Harmonia. You majorly need some harmony with all that discord!
Newton: All the Mythics are female virgins. Is that a requirement?
Unicornia: No! (laughs) We just all are, except for Bellydancer Upyours. E's a born-again virgin.
Newton: What is everyone's real religious faith and occupation?
Loveshade: I'll answer that for the group, as some of our contributors don't want their mundane lives identified
with their Discordian personas. Our professions include journalism and freelance writing, art, photography,
modeling, animal husbandry, babysitting, nursing, counseling, cashiering, woodworking, book dealing, arms
dealing, nutrition, science, computer science, music, education (including students) and more. This includes,
believe it or not, the military and governmental bureaucracy. I don't know or remember everyone's religion in
'real life,' but they do include Roman Catholic Christian, Protestant Christian, Jewish, Pagan, Wiccan, Mormon,
Atheist, Agnostic, a mix of Hindu-Buddhist-Jainist, Ethical Culture, and, yes, Discordian.
Newton: Reverend, how did Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht really get started?
Loveshade: You mean you don't believe my dream-vision of Cherub Princess Shamlicht flying naked while
talking ape-monkeys flew out of es butt? Truly, until Mid Year's Day, 2 July 2005, I had no concept of doing a
book. But the roots grew from our problems with The Agents of Greyface enforcing badly-written laws they
didn't understand; my fascination with Discordianism, Personism, and the original Ek-sen-triks CluborGuild; and
knowing some highly creative and open-minded people I really wanted to work with. Like those here in this hot
tub with me.
Untroubled: And e likes to see people naked.
Loveshade: By the way, in spite of Shamlicht's prediction of it taking 5 years and 37 days to write the book,
the book's first rough draft was actually finished on the solstice of 21 December 2006--which Sister Lorraine
figured out is 537 days. Weird.
Newton: Why is Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht important?
Yoshikyoko: Because it helps people to see the world differently. And it's fun!
Unicornia: It's fun, and it's against ageism and sexism and all other prejudice. It says things people are afraid
to say!
Craven: It is important because it gives us some of der esoteric knowledge of the world.
Captain 'Sesame Seed' Rogers (Breaking from a kiss with Sister Hooter): And it's just the right size and
weight to use for spanking my boys.
Sister Hooter: And for those naughty boys to hide in the bottom of their pants so they don't feel a thing! And
if you strike with a book or belt on their exposed bottoms? You could injure their privates, poor dears. That's
not how I spank my girls. The proper way to spank is bare hand against bare butt.
Newton: Hooter and Rogers: today, which is synchronistically the 31st anniversary of the tragic discovery of
Robert and Arlen Wilson's murdered 15-year-old daughter Luna, you merged your girls' and boys' clubs to
form the Shamlicht Kids Club. What's the most important part of your new group?
Rogers: Our motto.
Hooter: 'Be prepared for anything.' Right Rogers? (pulls down Rogers' pants and swats his behind)
Rogers: Ouch!
involved in Ek-sen-trik Discordianism?
Untroubled Teen: I started when I was fictional. Then I became real. But when I don't remember.
Princess Unicornia: Reverend Loveshade told me about it. That was like five years ago.
Dr. Sinister Craven: Dr. Loveshade told me about der Ek-sen-triks also. I believe this was in 1992 when the
club was undead. Then he was not a doctor but he liked playing doctor. I joined by cutting off my foot. Don't
worry it grew back (shows foot).
Reverend Loveshade: I heard tales of the original Ek-sen-triks CluborGuild from my mother when I was a kid.
The roots of my fascination with Discordianism go back to the end of the 1980s or beginning of the 1990s. My
friend Brother Goose, who knew many of the original Ek-sen-triks, gave me Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton
Wilson. In 1994 I read the just-released Steve Jackson Games edition of Principia Discordia, and penned a few
pieces for a proposed Apocrypha Discordia. That book never happened, although a later book by the same
name did, and included a bit of what I'd written and posted online.
Newton: The most well-known of those pieces is 'Five Blind Men and an Elephant,' your retelling of a classic
myth. I saw your version in several collections while researching this interview. What's the point of it?
Loveshade: I refuse to give an analysis of my own work for fear it might incriminate me.
Unicornia: It's about how everybody sees things differently. But if you think everybody should see things your
way, then you have problems.
Newton: This question is for anybody. Do you really believe all this Ek-sen-trik Discordian stuff?
Untroubled: No.
Fairy Princess Yoshikyoko (breaking from a platonic kiss with Nixie Nurita to fly closer to Newton): I believe in
love and that's part of it. And you should be free to be yourself.
Unicornia: I believe Discordia is a real aspect of Goddess. And so is Harmonia.
Craven: I know that Dr. Loveshade believes in what he says. I believe in what I wrote down.
Perlie the Pony Girl: I believe in Reverend Loveshade!
Loveshade: I believe everything I say and write is completely and absolutely false. Including this.
Newton: Unicornia and Yoshikyoko, you co-founded the Mythics of Harmonia. Why?
Yoshikyoko: It's for Aneris who is really Harmonia. You majorly need some harmony with all that discord!
Newton: All the Mythics are female virgins. Is that a requirement?
Unicornia: No! (laughs) We just all are, except for Bellydancer Upyours. E's a born-again virgin.
Newton: What is everyone's real religious faith and occupation?
Loveshade: I'll answer that for the group, as some of our contributors don't want their mundane lives identified
with their Discordian personas. Our professions include journalism and freelance writing, art, photography,
modeling, animal husbandry, babysitting, nursing, counseling, cashiering, woodworking, book dealing, arms
dealing, nutrition, science, computer science, music, education (including students) and more. This includes,
believe it or not, the military and governmental bureaucracy. I don't know or remember everyone's religion in
'real life,' but they do include Roman Catholic Christian, Protestant Christian, Jewish, Pagan, Wiccan, Mormon,
Atheist, Agnostic, a mix of Hindu-Buddhist-Jainist, Ethical Culture, and, yes, Discordian.
Newton: Reverend, how did Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht really get started?
Loveshade: You mean you don't believe my dream-vision of Cherub Princess Shamlicht flying naked while
talking ape-monkeys flew out of es butt? Truly, until Mid Year's Day, 2 July 2005, I had no concept of doing a
book. But the roots grew from our problems with The Agents of Greyface enforcing badly-written laws they
didn't understand; my fascination with Discordianism, Personism, and the original Ek-sen-triks CluborGuild; and
knowing some highly creative and open-minded people I really wanted to work with. Like those here in this hot
tub with me.
Untroubled: And e likes to see people naked.
Loveshade: By the way, in spite of Shamlicht's prediction of it taking 5 years and 37 days to write the book,
the book's first rough draft was actually finished on the solstice of 21 December 2006--which Sister Lorraine
figured out is 537 days. Weird.
Newton: Why is Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht important?
Yoshikyoko: Because it helps people to see the world differently. And it's fun!
Unicornia: It's fun, and it's against ageism and sexism and all other prejudice. It says things people are afraid
to say!
Craven: It is important because it gives us some of der esoteric knowledge of the world.
Captain 'Sesame Seed' Rogers (Breaking from a kiss with Sister Hooter): And it's just the right size and
weight to use for spanking my boys.
Sister Hooter: And for those naughty boys to hide in the bottom of their pants so they don't feel a thing! And
if you strike with a book or belt on their exposed bottoms? You could injure their privates, poor dears. That's
not how I spank my girls. The proper way to spank is bare hand against bare butt.
Newton: Hooter and Rogers: today, which is synchronistically the 31st anniversary of the tragic discovery of
Robert and Arlen Wilson's murdered 15-year-old daughter Luna, you merged your girls' and boys' clubs to
form the Shamlicht Kids Club. What's the most important part of your new group?
Rogers: Our motto.
Hooter: 'Be prepared for anything.' Right Rogers? (pulls down Rogers' pants and swats his behind)
Rogers: Ouch!
| This interview is copyright 2007 by Adam Newton. We made the wallpaper, but you can use it for whatever you like. |
| Adam Newton is a freelance writer and educator. Newton has written for books, magazines, newspapers, radio and television. We're honored that e agreed to interview many of the contributors to our we're-working-to-get-it-published book, Ek-sen-trik-kuh Discordia: The Tales of Shamlicht. |
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